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There's often an assumption, usually found amongst the residents of the United States of America, that the UK and the US share a broadly similar frame of cultural context. This is, quite frankly, bollocks.

Take a quick look at this story: UK wants music embassy in the US. The key points are scattered through the story, but they come down to (a) virtually no British music is having an impact on the US charts and (b) the US is the most parochial music market in the world, bar Pakistan (which is currently edging the world towards nuclear war and thus is not a country to look up to).

Now, why is this important? Surely the good citizens of the US are entitled to listen to whatever music they want to? Of course they are. Indeed, I listen to quite a lot of American music and enjoy it throughly. The point isn't that, it's that many Americans are simply unaware of their degree of cultural isolationism at the moment. The British chart is a mix of British, American and European artists. The US chart is largely US artists. The cultural infulences at work there are purely American.

They are equally unware of the degree of cultural Imperialism that goes on. People outside America don't mind it that much - they're quite happy to use good American products that come their way. But the asymmetric nature of the exchange makes some non-Americans uneasy.

Many US writers in Livejournals, Blogs and newspapers are turning their attention to Europe and the rest of the world in a way they haven't since probably the Second World War. George W Bush has been forced to play a bigger part on the world stage than he would have if left to his own devices. We all remembers some of the simply daft things he said about foreign countries in his election campaign. This change of focus is an inevitable consequence of September 11th, but one that makes the rest of us a little nervous. Why? It's because suddenly Americans are commenting on things they have very little real understanding of. Sure, there are some well-informed commentators out there saying interesting things. But there's an awful lot of people espousing a jingoistic belief in the inherent superiority of the American way, without truly understanding the cultures and philosophies of those lands. They haven't seen their TV, watched their films and listened to their music. They haven't read their books or skimmed their magazines. They see everything through glasses with the stars and stripes printed on them. Indeed, many seem genuinely surprised when they discover that people hold different views from them and promptly set out to persuade the poor, ignorant natives.

I freely admit that not every American is guilty of this, but there's enough of them out there to make web browsing an increasingly uncomfortable experience. The really curious thing is that the attitude I'm describing here reminds me powerfully of the attitudes of the British in the 19th Century. Any chance of learning from our mistakes?

Date: 2002-05-28 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] point5b.livejournal.com
They haven't seen their TV, watched their films and listened to their music. They haven't read their books or skimmed their magazines. They see everything through glasses with the stars and stripes printed on them. Indeed, many seem genuinely surprised when they discover that people hold different views from them and promptly set out to persuade the poor, ignorant natives.

And, on the flip side, simplisme is a dirty word among many Americans who perceive exactly this attitude from your side of the pond, a patronizing need to advise us less-sophisticated folk who have accidently blundered out of our borders. On the political level, I for one am mystified that some European politicians believe they have a vote in how my country conducts its national defense in the face of aggression, either on any moral level or on the practical level of their armed forces being of much use (with the pointed exception of the UK).
I freely admit that not every American is guilty of this, but there's enough of them out there to make web browsing an increasingly uncomfortable experience.

What sort of things are bothering you, exactly? I've never felt bothered by anyone else's patriotism, at least when it was a positive expression about one's own country and not a snipe at another country...Which, well, to probably cause a smidge of offense, seems to go hand in hand outside the US. We get mocked for being puffed up about our real and mythic virtues, but nationalism in other nations seems to involve a shockingly high degree of absurdly long-held grudges, tensions, and occasionally-voiced hatreds.
The really curious thing is that the attitude I'm describing here reminds me powerfully of the attitudes of the British in the 19th Century. Any chance of learning from our mistakes?

My answer hasn't changed in some time and has only been strengthened since 9/11 and the fallout: don't try to run an Empire. Don't try to police the world, especially when many of our allies and our less-than-allies both want us to do their work for them. Deal with those that threaten us, then basically leave other countries alone, whether they cheered in the streets when the WTC fell or not. Simplistic? I think it's quite sensible and moral. I want an open society where people from all over the world come here to enrich us and be enriched. As much as I have grown to admire the Israelis, I don't want to live in that kind of security-obsessed country, with murderous maniacs trying to slaughter people in restaurants and pool halls. And certainly not to be insulting, but I don't even want the milder, but still highly regulated and guarded society the UK has. I don't want to walk down a city street and not be able to throw away a kleenex because trashcans are too much of a bomb risk. I boggle at the idea of your government putting cameras on street-corners and your country still having a higher crime rate than mine.
A lot of perfectly intelligent Americans have been looking at the world quite a bit harder than they used to, and they like even less what they see than they did before. I'm not under any illusion that my country is perfect, or even remotely near that. I'm morally certain that for any criticism you might have of the US, I could come up with five equally important ones. However, I can say with honesty and absolutely no arrogance that I am fervently glad I live in the US over any other country.

Date: 2002-05-29 05:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maliszew.livejournal.com
Well said in all your posts. Much better than my feeble attempts to say the same. Thank you.

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